thanks 71and06goat you make a really good point

Having read the thread, I agree with some of what the others have said and some of what you've said. If I was doing this motor and wanted high to mid 12's without a cam upgrade I'd go for airflow and traction. An engine is just an air pump. A new manifold really won't help enough on the stock cam to be worth the money. Unless you have money to throw away go for bang for the buck. CAI, longtubes (cat delete), x-pipe, and aftermarket rear pipes with a solid custom tune and a set of DR's should get you close. If you want to do the 1.6's and springs then go for it. What the guys are trying to tell you is that a good cam is worth the same amount of hp as all that other stuff will make together and give you more head room. Plus is sounds bad ass.

yes for the LT1/VORTEC V8 they say race applications only from what i have found

1.7 rockers are for race only? what the hell

ill be fine with 1.6 rockers i dont need more then that its not a race motor and 1.7 are for race applications only .and the reason why i got my car over an ls1/lsx car i got a really really good deal on it and everything for the car is strongly documented and its 1 of 433 and i and it had alot of stuff already done to it already so i couldnt pass it up

ill be fine with 1.6 rockers i dont need more then that its not a race motor and 1.7 are for race applications only .and the reason why i got my car over an ls1/lsx car i got a really really good deal on it and everything for the car is strongly documented and its 1 of 433 and i and it had alot of stuff already done to it already so i couldnt pass it up

Actually you can run 1.7's on gen 1 and 2...And if you're going to spend the extra money to buy a great set of headers (which I totally agree are probably the best out there), then why didn't you spend the extra money for something with the LSX motor in it

yea TSPENCE45 the only other exaust mods that i plan on doing is a set of KOOKS long tubes with there Y-PIPE and ill still run my cat and BTW pacesetters are OK if u cant afford a quality set of headers such as KOOKS but i can afford them so ill go with the best qaulity such as KOOKS ...and please show me proof that the LT1 lost power with the edelbrock intake manifold..and i dont think they make 1.7 rockers for gen 1 or gen 2 small block chevys they only make them for LS1'S and big block chevy's ...and 1 miore think i will never ever buy single chamber junk ive learned my lesson with that crap such as flowmaster u should do a little research on the power loss u get with a flowmaster from a STOCK exhaust.. MAGNAFLOW or CORSA is the way to go FTW......

First off, don't go with 1.6's. Go with some 1.7's. Plus, don't get an Edelbrock intake manifold. Upgrading the intake manifold without atleast a bigger cam is pretty much pointless. There was also a test done on one of the LT1 edelbrock intake manifolds, and it actually lost power compared to the stock intake. IMO, Edelbrock is overpriced junk and I would never pay to have any of their parts on my car. My car had the most worthless set of Edelbrock shorties on it when I bought it. Needless to say, they are gone now for some Pacesetter LT's. Also, if you want the car to sound absolutely amazing, get some LT's and an x-pipe kit with some single chamber mufflers. I never thought an LT1 could sound so sweet. Keeping the stock-style setup (single piping into dual outlet muffler) will never have anything but a bunch of rasp.

sounds great