well i guess it doesn't matter where you go on here you always get stupid people that hate because they can never get thier car that fast i know both of these guys and yes the that is the right whp that they make also torrie hold's the record for highest whp for the stock motor joe's motor is the racing motor
Torrie built his GT, Joe bought his.
yea they have the claimed numbers and the only cars that i think stand a chance against these beasts are tt vipers and vettes, supras need not apply