Sprink, that is kind of a loose argument comparing a track ready car to a production car. If you look at the best lap times around Tsukuba they aren't held by FWD cars. The point he is trying to make is a FWD car is at a disadvantage to RWD for the most part. Consider the handling chracteristics for a moment, braking turning and accelerating of the front wheels is not practical as RWD layout. This is why practicaly all high end cars are RWD or AWD.

and im not giving nascar any props i can only watch so many left turns

and bapple your z06 runs a 1.04.5 at Tsukuba and tuned civics run under a minute flat for half the money and I found out why all these v8 guys are hating on honda cause most of them are to fat to fit into one seriously anybody who knows engines knows honda engines are bad ass

You use to have to sell the cars at the dealer ship to race the car in nascar now its N ot A nything S tock CAR put some stickers on it and call it a taurus but the street version of that car is bs and tell me why ford gives europe all the bad ass cars they get a focus with 300hp 325tq fwd with factory quaife and we get a 170hp svt doesnt make any since

i assume its a crazy b18? it sounds like my snowmobile, turns higher rpms too its crazy something can rev up that high without breaking parts.

Any car that turns 10K RPM's will have some horsepower. It's called leverage. Torque will certainly be low.

By the way due to physics the weight (up to a certain point and distribution) is beneficial. Sleds? You need to research centri and inertial forces buddy.

Hey sprink have you ever seen the "paint swap" episode where the F1 driver loans his ride to the Nascar driver (Gordon)and vice versa? Gordon was like a kid in a candy shop and the F1 driver only stated that the NASCAR braked too late (with no enthusiasm in his voice) and that's it. Nuff said...NASCAR is funny as hell...pure comedy...I personally don't give a fu@k what they like! I do like beer and billboards though and that is where the similarity ends. I guess I'm unAmerican by the popular standard, but then again I don't like Brittany Spears and all the other trash that people consume as if they had no brain in their head!

so the guy who designed the boss 429 holds multible v8 quarter mile world records nascar engine builder favorite car of all time is a 89 honda civic just kinda funny ican understand if any of you have owned a nice honda but you just dont know

yeah you need all that torque to move those 3500lbs lead sleds around but when your car weighs 2000lbs its overkill im just sayin that the people that get into hondas and see thr enginering and the way the are built are honda people for life including nascar builders