i dont care if there underpaid honda and toyota just know how 2 do better business and everything eles.

Toyota's and Honda's workers are paid almost twice as less in north america than GM ford or Chrysler workers + the big 3 are supporting huge retirement plans. So Toyota and Honda have more money left to put in theirs cars,meaning more quality/reliability.For Toyota's and Honda's fans with theirs proudness stfu, your cars are made by underpaid workers.

the only reason ford got a better cuz it ask toyota for help and toyotas are know for the reliability of there 4 cylinders give it some time and the v6 and the v8 will get better

TRD,Do you realize thats why ford reliability started getting horrible? The couldnt pump out enough cars so some things had to suffer.

yeah maybe they dropped on reliability but thats only because they couldn't keep up on manufactring more cars you have to built thats when the reliability suffers the fords still have a ways to go

at ford quality was the first job to be cut back unlike their old saying quality is job one